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Troublemaker, good to hear from you. so when are you going back to Jinan? are you retiring or going to make a new career there?

seems like a beautiful city although I have never been there:)

I often contemplate going back to china as well, life is more fun there...

[quote]下面是引用scubadiver于2005-09-22 20:44发表的:
i have not heard from you for a while, chat. hope all is well.

Diver, we have not seen you for a while either, how about you?

是呀，　谢谢ＤＩＶＥＲ把这帖子顶上来。我们也挂记着ＣＨＡＴ的家人现在的状况。
ＣＨＡＴ现在应该在国外，家人怎么样了？

i have not heard from you for a while, chat. hope all is well.

I just came across some article on Wall Street about surgery induced cancer growth, I don't have the original article, but here is a similar article for people considering surgery:

http://www.mydna.com/health/breast_cancer/news/resources/news/200509/news_20050914_surind.html, these are some new studies on breast cancer patients but could very well apply to other cancer patients.

Here is an older article with more reviews:

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-026.shtml

If you or your relative is considering surgery, make sure to read these. I wish I knew these information before my dad went into surgery.

謝謝你！Chat.

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下面是引用junelily于2005-06-12 09:25发表的:
chat, 痲煩你能不能再祥細說說中成药百令， 葯名就叫百令？ 哪個厰生產的？主要起啥作用。 謝謝。

我父親也正在面对癌症。

抱歉，几次写到一半都被其他的事情打断了。

百令牌 百令胶囊 （成分 发酵虫草菌粉） 杭州中美华制药有限公司 主要就是补肺肾。咳嗽，气喘，腰背酸痛等辅助治疗
还有就是 宝山牌 参芪片 吉林制药股份有限公司 主要是适用于癌症法化疗引起的白细胞减少，头晕，头昏，倦怠乏力，消瘦，恶心呕吐

希望对你有帮助，我个人的意见，基本治疗还是要听正规医院医生意见，中药可以最为辅助的，用些扶正固本两方面的都要吃。

chat, 痲煩你能不能再祥細說說中成药百令， 葯名就叫百令？ 哪個厰生產的？主要起啥作用。 謝謝。

我父親也正在面对癌症。

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下面是引用scubadiver于2005-06-11 10:02发表的:
I second the opinion upstairs, my dad had operation with his gastric cancer about two years ago. he was surpposed to do 6 chemo, but only did 2.5 due to strong reactions. his cancer is now spread to lung and is at his last days. I often wonder whether it would have made the difference if we forced him to complete the chemo.

对于很多治疗的事情都是中众说纷纭的，做这样的决定总是很难的。不过，diver，我想只要我们当时的决定是经过深思熟虑的，就一定是最好的决定。毕竟，最终面对的不是我们自己，我们也无法预测无法强加。。。。

也许是我站着说话不腰疼。其实，我们每个人每天都面对这样的别离。我就想，只要我妈妈觉得过的不错，时间的长短其实和每天的心情比起来不是那么重要了。

还有，我真的觉得如果我们自己的生活过的有价值，有意义，幸福，这个对父母给与德生育之恩也是很大的回报。

我不知道有没有跟你说明摆我的意思。。。

还有，我觉得你是个非常有责任心有原则的人，认识你也很高兴

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下面是引用晴天于2005-06-11 01:40发表的:
Chat, 我很少来这个网站,一来就看见你妈妈的事.

    我非常能理解你的感受. 因为在两年半以前,我妈也查出了和你妈一模一样的病. 现在我妈妈的身体状况非常好,虽然目前还没有完全度过当初医生说的”一年危险,三年重要,五年痊愈”阶段,但是我们一家人都对治愈很有信心.

    我们采取了中西医结合的治疗方法.
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谢谢你的详尽说明。大概最鼓励人心的就是病友的成功了。谢谢。那个广州的咨询网站原来diver也跟我讲过，那里的医生对病人的精神也让人感动。

对了，我妈妈做了化疗以后很弱，后来吃了中成药百令效果非常好。也供你参考把

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下面是引用scubadiver于2005-06-11 10:02发表的:
I second the opinion upstairs, my dad had operation with his gastric cancer about two years ago. he was surpposed to do 6 chemo, but only did 2.5 due to strong reactions. his cancer is now spread to lung and is at his last days. I often wonder whether it would have made the difference if we forced him to complete the chemo.

Really sorry to hear that, Diver, really!

Right now I dont know what I should say, just pray for him!

God Bless!

I second the opinion upstairs, chemo is critical.

Chat, 我很少来这个网站,一来就看见你妈妈的事.

    我非常能理解你的感受. 因为在两年半以前,我妈也查出了和你妈一模一样的病. 现在我妈妈的身体状况非常好,虽然目前还没有完全度过当初医生说的”一年危险,三年重要,五年痊愈”阶段,但是我们一家人都对治愈很有信心.

    我们采取了中西医结合的治疗方法.

西医方面:手术,化疗(6次), 药品的选择上,用都是进口药,(现在药应该比两年前更好). 中间穿插使用一些辅助药品,扩充血管之类的. 需要说的是,医生总说要按照病人的实际情况决定化疗的次数,但是我们咨询了很多人,都说无论如何也要挺过6次化疗.受苦是一定会受的,掉头发,呕吐,静脉炎等等.最怕的是白血球下降,所以我妈吃了不少灵芝,可以帮助升白血球.也有一些冬虫夏草.没有吃”中华灵芝宝”之类的东西,直接吃灵芝,把灵芝磨成粉,然后做成药丸,每天吃一点.现在也吃点蜂胶什么的.

中医方面:从生病开始到现在,我妈几乎每天都在吃中药,开始是为了帮助减轻化疗的副作用.西医的治疗结束后,就以中医为主了.中医上,其他也说不好,找个好医生当然顶顶重要. 好像是先扶正之类的. 不能吃发的东西,不吃鸡汤,不吃大补的东西. 少吃酸性的物质. 不能进厨房闻油烟.少去空气不好的地方.

现在她三个月去医院全面检查一次,一切正常.

还有就是,要坚强.一家子都得坚强.我妈从开始就知道自己的病,我们都偷偷哭过很多次,可我没见她自己哭过.化疗的时候很难受,她也是有症状说症状,从不说坚持不下去了的话.出院后,天天中药,我妈说,她就当降火汤喝. 身体好点之后,天天散步锻炼, 还练书法,一周去老年大学唱三次歌, 练肺活量.现在医生说,她的肺已经鼓起来了.完全向着健康的方向走.脸色比生病前还好. 家里的气氛也很好. 我爸常说,是我妈带我们一家走出了阴影.

肺癌信息网(http://www.lungca.com/) 挺好的. 希望我写的这些对你妈妈有点帮助. Good Luck.

刚看到你妈妈的新情况.

祝你亲爱的妈妈早日好起来!

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下面是引用lotus于2005-06-09 16:45发表的:
I like your attitude.

I like your attitude.

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下面是引用lotus于2005-06-08 10:09发表的:
"那个才是N个零前面的那个1呢;)"
That's an intereting way to put it. Thank you for your concern.

I am not after $. Just that my profession is not high-tech, nor has anything to do with Asia. Still, I have to prove that my employer needs me instead of an American. Anyway, I trust all things in God's hand. Wherever HE wants me to be, I'll go happily.

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Attitude counts 100. ；） 　Ｔｈａｎｋｓ　ｆｏｒ　ｔａｌｋｉｎｇ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｙｏｕｒｓｅｌｆ　ａｎｄ　Ｉ　ａｍ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｈａｐｐｙ　ｔｏ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｙｏｕ　ｍｏｒｅ；）
I　ｗａｓ　ｎｏｔ　ｉｍｐｌｙ　ａｂｏｕｔ　＄＄，　ｉｔ＆ｓ　ｊｕｓｔ　ａ　ｇｅｎｅｒａｌ　ｄｅｓｃｒｉｐｔｉｏｎ　ｏｎ　ｍａｎｙ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｎｅｃｃｅｓａｃｉｔｉｅｓ　ｆｏｒ　ｌｉｆｅ．．．　＄＄ｉｓ　ａｌｓｏ　ｉｎｃｌｕｄｅｄ　ｔｈｏ．．．

"那个才是N个零前面的那个1呢;)"
That's an intereting way to put it. Thank you for your concern.

I am not after $. Just that my profession is not high-tech, nor has anything to do with Asia. Still, I have to prove that my employer needs me instead of an American. Anyway, I trust all things in God's hand. Wherever HE wants me to be, I'll go happily.

Wish your mom will get well soon.

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下面是引用lotus于2005-06-07 19:43发表的:
又几天过去了。点滴打完了吗？

嗯，今天已经出院啦。还不错，医生把一个常规药品的点滴去了以后，
症状就好很多了。
这次碰到很多不同的大夫，觉得做个大夫很不容易。。。

你工作这么忙，还记得我妈妈的事情，替我妈谢谢你了。不管怎么样，
保重身体啊！那个才是N个零前面的那个1呢;)

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下面是引用pool1989于2005-06-07 01:52发表的:
愿一切保重！

我们爱的人，爱我们的人：

一切保重！

谢谢你和你带来的音乐。 去年看过一次谭盾的地图，很好看。本来应该写写观后感的，不过，真的很不错。。。