初试 HDTV 高清数字电视

要搬家了， 我的 SONY WEGA 彩电才 27” 却有 150多磅重 ，搬起来太麻烦，正好想换LCD的。 于是上craigslist 发了个帖，200 块钱卖给了一个刚到湾区的老印。

在湾区搬家的痛苦大家都有，也就不提了。一句话说，化了几百块，搬坏了几百块的家具，还得多给小费！卖方市场吗.

做了几天的网上研究， 虽然网上有更便宜的，最终决定上 COSCO 买 台 VIZIO 32 寸LCD TV， 才 799＋TAX 就搞定, 自带HDTV tuner， 才60磅，自己就能塞进车后尾箱运回家， 家里cable 还没通， 听网上论坛说可以用天线，所以就试开了， 用数字电视自动收台， 才收出 2 个台， 不甘心， 换了天线角度，糟了， 一个台都没了！ 试了半天， 最后发现， 冲着西北方向， 可以收到 5 个数字台， 其中两个是搞清电视（HDTV）一个是 1080i, 一个是720p, 其余3 个是480i 非高清 ， 高清的效果非常不错，哈哈，很满意。

接下来， 把我得 D600 笔记本的 VGA 接上去， 搞了双屏幕输出， 然后把网上下的搞清 AVI 电影 放了出来， 哇塞！ 从没见过这般效果！！！
国内的压缩连续剧放出来效果就差多了， 不过能用 32 寸的大屏幕看加上音响输出， 以后还是不会再用14寸的笔记本了来看了！

一个LCD TV, 既看电视， 又看电脑， 不错！有人心动吗？

 

男人好像都喜欢HDTV。　所有到过我家的男宾一致认为客厅正中应该立个HDTV。

切，　还嫌女人花钱多，　男人是不买则已一买惊人。　这个东东够我多少年的脂粉钱呀！

Hi 一江春水

i just got the TV from the same company, mine is 37" (I thought it might be too big, but it looks kind of small in the living room still). anyway, how did you get the TV signal? do u need to buy an Antenna? I don't have cable, and can't get anything except watch DVD...

I am also thinking about returning the TV for a bigger one, but all I can find at costco are just plasma TVs if I want a bigger one. I really can't tell the difference in picture quality, except they are more bulky, have you done any research to suggest that it's better to stay with LCD TVs (weight consideration aside)?

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既看电视， 又看电脑， 不错！有人心动吗？
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心动, 人不动.

阿平说得好！

If your TV model is a HDTV one, say a L37HDTVxxx, all you need is to get a TV antenna, then you can get the free air DTV signal. My antenna is a free one come with my previous TV purchase.

There is a good web site about air signal and antenna choose, I will post it here when I find the link, it basically tells you what type of antenna and direction you should have to get a specification channel, according to your home address.

According to pcmag review, ZIVIO 32" is doing very well for viewing DVD, even better than the comparing Sony LCD TV. Make sure you are using component video output, if your DVD player is not HD model.

I guess you are not use the LCD as a PC monitor, playing DVD from PC would produce even better result than playing from normal DVD player's component port, as it is optimized for 1368x768 resolution.

For LCD vs Plasma, you are correct, plasma is good at larger size. If you do want a model larger than 42", your don't have much choices except going plasma. Keep in mind that, the biggest drawback for plasma, it can not be used as a computer monitor, due to its burn-out effect. For this, I never give plasma a consideration, as I am a computer fan, I would even play games on LCD TV. Also, although larger size, the resolution for plasma is not higher, that makes you feel the dot is bulky. You'd better get a HD DVD player if you go with plasma.

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一个HDTV还不至于上升到男人，女人的问题上来吧？

大学打桥牌的时候，对桥牌皇后杨小燕的一句话印象颇深： 君之所好须纵情。只要负担的起，花些钱在你喜欢的东西上应该很值得的！尤其是对于湾区的工程师们来说，不论男女，工作辛苦，压力又大，报酬不错，却没有多少乐趣可享受的。过着这样的生活，是不是该自我放松一下呢。

看了蒋国兵的报道， 我觉得理解他，他一定是活得太累了。从农村的幼年时代，到清华的7年寒窗，到国外的美加双料博士，再到加国的潦倒供房，他吃过多少苦，虽然在旁人看来他很有成就，可比起他走过的艰辛，他又享过多少人生乐趣呢？ 如果说人生是来赎罪的，他的罪早赎完了，他想选择不再这么累的活下去，我们没理由在他事后怪他。

所以说， 和你老公好好沟通一下吧，让双方都作些自己开心的事，钱吗，花完再赚。身为硅谷人，拿出点“天生我才必有用，千金散尽还复来“ 的气慨来。

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引用第0楼一江春水于07-24-2006 13:28发表的“初试 HDTV 高清数字电视”:
一个LCD TV, 既看电视， 又看电脑， 不错！.......

Good idea! 我家LCD不大，才２０英寸，正不想端个重重的笔记本看朋友当的片子呢。

我老公琢磨着年底去买个大的。唉！小胖的托儿费不菲，一个月一个LCD大彩电。

咱家年初也从 COSCO 买了 VIZIO 37寸 LCD TV so far so good. 对于一江春水的推荐 十分认同

thanks for the comments. I got an amplified Antenna (RCA), was only able to get a few channels to work like 26, 36, 44, etc. can't really get the ABC, CBS, etc. to work. got a couple of spanish channel to work really well

I found a solution on bigger TV. Costco is going to have the 42" LCD TV from Vizio, between 8/7-8/13 it's only $1299 (only $100 more than what I paid for my 37" LCD), so I am going to upgrade it. if you bought your TV within the last year, you can still bring it back to Costco to upgrade it. You've got to love Costco!

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引用第10楼scubadiver于07-29-2006 14:30发表的“”:

if you bought your TV within the last year, you can still bring it back to Costco to upgrade it. You've got to love Costco!

真的? 有无什么限制啊?
下个月 Costco 有 $999 的 sceptre 37" 我想看看可否换大.


对ＬＣＤ电视的一些感觉: LCD TV 厂家有两类, 以 Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and Philips 为代表的传统电视厂家, 他们有经验做出好的电视; 但知道怎么赚钱; 以 Viewsonic, Vizio, Sceptre 为代表的传统显示器厂家, 他们知道怎么做 LCD 电脑显示器, 但做TV 还欠火候; 以VIZIO 为列, 其 tuner 能调出的台明显太少, 另外出厂的色彩也没统一调好过, 那天去 sunnyvale Costco 看到一台VIZIO , 色彩和其它电视相差好多. 如果做显示器, 色彩可有电脑显卡来校正, 可你做电视, 你不预先校正, 人家不买你的!

不过我还是喜欢显示器厂家的东西, 大凡做过电脑产品的人都知道莫尔定律, 实用的解释是 一年后可以用一半的价钱买到双倍的价值, 一年钱我的以为朋友在国内用 28000 元 买了台 32" PANASONIC LCD TV, 一年后 同样品牌价格降了一半, 还多了电脑VGA 接口. 一句话, 买 Sony, Panasonic or Samsung 莫尔定律多半适用, 而买显示器厂家的东西, 多半不适用. 因为他们宁愿少赚多卖. Philips的 LCD不太贵, 电视也好, 可 连个 VGA 接口都没有, 亏他当年还做过PC.  

有兴趣的仁兄可以试试 用天线接收 HDTV的效果, 如果天线能收到十几二十个数字台, 那么每月60 多元的CABLE 费用就可以省下了. 如果你试了, 有什么结果敬请回帖告知一声!!!

先将我的结果报告下
我用的是普通无源天线;
电视型号: VIZIO 32" L32HDTV10A,
可收到 5 channels:
KNTV-HD 1080i;
NBC Weather 480i;
KDTV DT 480i,
KICU-HD 720p,
KICU SD 480i;

关于电线接收, 可以参考一下网站:
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx

I bought my TV almost a month ago, so I was wondering whether I should bring it back now and then wait for the sale of the bigger one. I asked the guy at costco customer service, he told me that as long as it's within the last year, and with all the cables and documentation, it should be OK. so I am just going to wait until the big TV come in to return this one.

what's even more astonishing, I heard that you can return a computer to costco within a year. this i heard from a friend of mine, but I don't feel that i can afford to return a computer after even 1 month (too much work), so I never bother to verify. but it sure sounds like a hell of deal if you are a gadget lover who's always on the leading edge for computer

I hauled my one month old 37" TV to Costco and upgraded it to a 43" one. Total cost: $133. the process was totally painless, and within an hour or so the new TV is up and running. the new TV is about the right size for my living room, so I think this is a keeper.

The surprise: I got total of 39 HDTV channels! this inclding channel 2, 4, 5, 7, etc. all the channels that I want anyway. so I am a happy camper . No need to get cable service anymore.

Wow ! That is great news! What is the brand and model number of your new HDTV? I am going to change mine.


   

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引用第10楼scubadiver于07-29-2006 14:30发表的“”:
thanks for the comments. I got an amplified Antenna (RCA),

BTW, Where did you buy your Antenna? What is the brand and model? In case my new TV can not receive that many channels, I will upgrade the antenna.

Also, I upgraded my Philips DVP642 DVD player to DVP5960. The new one can play new Divx 6/Ultra movies. it can even play movies in Hard drive though USB port! Great improvement on video quality. It has HDMI output. Video output can be upconversion to 720p, 576p, and 1080i; I now store all those MPEG4 movies to a Hard Drive and let the DVD play them, my laptop plays only RMVB and WMV. A nice product for a HDTV owner.

Costco的退货政策确实没话说，有时都让你不可思议。我４年前在Costco买过一台ＶＣＲ，用了一年两个月后出毛病了。我拆开没修好。我去Costco买东西，随便向Customer Services抱怨了一下，没想到，他们让我拿来换一台，我说发票没有了，他们说没关系，只要是Costco的货。我拿去后他们让我先退货，然后再买一台。谁知新型号价格降了１０刀。就是说我白用了一年零两个月，最后还倒找我１０刀。叫人不敢相信。ＷALmart退货政策已经不错了，不过和Costco比还差一大截。

大家可以看看我以前转的一篇关于Costco的文章。Sam's Club和Costco根本就无法比。
http://www.bachinese.com/forum/read.php?tid=4597&fpage=6

to 一江春水

I got the same brand as yours, Vizio. somehow the 42" has much better reception for broadcast HDTV than the 37". it's on sale at Costco at $1299. when i traded mine in, i saw couple of guys doing the same thing, so better hurry, the sale ends this week. by the way, the 42" also has two HDMI inputs.

the antenna I used is from Fry's, RCA amplified, I think it's $25 or something like that (I assume any amplified antenna should do).

我哭！！！我们村方园五十里只有一个Sam's，没有Costco

退货政策怎么样我倒不知道，可是东西的档次感觉也是差着一截呢。

我再哭！！！一年多前买的LCD TV，只有27寸还花了一千多，现在那价钱降的可以买个大多了，关键是我平时看电视很少，买回来后基本就是个摆设啊。

不过说要清晰度还真是很爽，可惜现在很多节目还不是真正的HDTV，倒是年初的冬奥会，着实地过了一把瘾，那蓝天雪山帅哥的，看着真是美啊。